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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s All Fun and Games Until Someone Gets Sued for Thousands of Copyright Infringements</title>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While it seems impossible for me to conger up why this is so completely ridiculous, I will say that Ellen is only helping the record companies by playing their music. Consider it free advertising. How could you sue someone for actually making you money. AND...It&#039;s not like people DVR her shows every time they want to listen to the latest Rihanna song.  This is what we call a symbiotic relationship, but record companies have a billion dollar stick up their butt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it seems impossible for me to conger up why this is so completely ridiculous, I will say that Ellen is only helping the record companies by playing their music. Consider it free advertising. How could you sue someone for actually making you money. AND&#8230;It&#8217;s not like people DVR her shows every time they want to listen to the latest Rihanna song.  This is what we call a symbiotic relationship, but record companies have a billion dollar stick up their butt.</p>
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		<title>By: C.M. Tomlin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C.M. Tomlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[T.D., 

It&#039;s a.) good to hear from you -- been a long time, and b.) great to hear your take on things. As you know, none of us are lawyers (except for Matt, but he&#039;s more the Michael Richards in the Jeff Daniels/Michael Richards vehicle  &quot;Trial &amp; Error&quot; type).

Thanks for the layman&#039;s terms -- as we&#039;re all laymen here. I hope you&#039;ll chime in whenever we talk celebs and legality, as most all we know is what we&#039;ve learned from the Law &amp; Order series. And you can be our Sam Waterston.

C.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.D., </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a.) good to hear from you &#8212; been a long time, and b.) great to hear your take on things. As you know, none of us are lawyers (except for Matt, but he&#8217;s more the Michael Richards in the Jeff Daniels/Michael Richards vehicle  &#8220;Trial &amp; Error&#8221; type).</p>
<p>Thanks for the layman&#8217;s terms &#8212; as we&#8217;re all laymen here. I hope you&#8217;ll chime in whenever we talk celebs and legality, as most all we know is what we&#8217;ve learned from the Law &amp; Order series. And you can be our Sam Waterston.</p>
<p>C.</p>
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		<title>By: T. D.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T. D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Tomlin, a couple days late on the comment, here, but as the resident entertainment lawyer guy, I can&#039;t help but chime in.  

While the labels have made boobs of themselves for chasing after individual file sharers, what&#039;s happening with Ellen is perhaps the most legitimate of their legal battles.  Consider this: Over the last 8-10 years, pundits have been screaming that charging for recorded music is a thing of the past.  While I wholly disagree (I like records), the argument is that labels should rely more on alternative forms of revenue for their masters.

&quot;Sync&quot; or master use licenses in film/TV are by no means big money makers, but they are a channel of income nonetheless.  Moreover, these licenses are issued almost automatically, using simple, 0ne-page forms.  In-house licensing departments crank these out all day and I&#039;ve never heard of a legitimate television show systematically skirting the licenses, especially when the relative cost to the show is so low.

Think of it another way: How much is Ellen&#039;s show making in advertising revenue?  Butt-tons.  Why?  (1) Because she&#039;s funny; (2) Because her humor-and a lot of the allure of her show- revolves around the boogie.  If you took the music away from her show and she were forced to boogie to silence, how significantly would it impact its profitability?

I&#039;d also caution people against running to the defense of the Ellen show - it&#039;s owned by a major corporation, which also happens to have a recorded music division.  While we all can have sympathy for the poor schmuck who&#039;s sharing his Vanilla Ice on Pirate Bay, TV show producers know better.  For them to so blatantly shun the law ain&#039;t a good thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tomlin, a couple days late on the comment, here, but as the resident entertainment lawyer guy, I can&#8217;t help but chime in.  </p>
<p>While the labels have made boobs of themselves for chasing after individual file sharers, what&#8217;s happening with Ellen is perhaps the most legitimate of their legal battles.  Consider this: Over the last 8-10 years, pundits have been screaming that charging for recorded music is a thing of the past.  While I wholly disagree (I like records), the argument is that labels should rely more on alternative forms of revenue for their masters.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sync&#8221; or master use licenses in film/TV are by no means big money makers, but they are a channel of income nonetheless.  Moreover, these licenses are issued almost automatically, using simple, 0ne-page forms.  In-house licensing departments crank these out all day and I&#8217;ve never heard of a legitimate television show systematically skirting the licenses, especially when the relative cost to the show is so low.</p>
<p>Think of it another way: How much is Ellen&#8217;s show making in advertising revenue?  Butt-tons.  Why?  (1) Because she&#8217;s funny; (2) Because her humor-and a lot of the allure of her show- revolves around the boogie.  If you took the music away from her show and she were forced to boogie to silence, how significantly would it impact its profitability?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also caution people against running to the defense of the Ellen show &#8211; it&#8217;s owned by a major corporation, which also happens to have a recorded music division.  While we all can have sympathy for the poor schmuck who&#8217;s sharing his Vanilla Ice on Pirate Bay, TV show producers know better.  For them to so blatantly shun the law ain&#8217;t a good thing.</p>
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